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Negma (KDV): 1909 gm
Negma (KDV)
1909 gm MNLp-*Fadl/*Maaroufa
Breeder: Khedive Abbas II or Prince Mohamed Aly

A Pre-Registration Horse  -  See pages 226-280

   
NOTES: Negma is described in the 1932 certified pedigrees for *Fadl and *Maaroufa from the Manial Stud of Prince Mohamed Aly as by Dahman El Azrak and out of Bint Yamama, of the stud of Prince Mohamed Aly. Photographs published by Judith Forbis [AAB, 119-120] show her at Manial as a dark grey in 1915 with her first foal of record. Colin Pearson [1988, xxix] shows her as a grey mare bred by Prince Mohamed Aly and later transferred to T.G.B. Trouncer.
    Both the AHC stud books and the 1932 certified pedigrees describe this line as being Kuhaylan 'Ajuz of the marbat of Ibn Jallab (or Kuhaylan Jallabi), tracing to Jellabiet Feysul (AP). Modern mtDNA testing has confirmed the information from Lady Anne Blunt's Journals and Correspondence indicating that the line instead goes to Ghazieh (AP) through Yemamah (APS). [See Bint Yamama (KDV)]
    Since Bint Yamama was transferred, heavy in foal, from the Khedive to Prince Mohamed Aly by the end of 1908 [J&C, 12/22/1908], either Negma was bred by the Khedive prior to early 1909 or by Prince Mohamed Aly c1909-10. The birthdate of c1909 is an Al Khamsa estimate.
    (See photos p269)

Tail Male: Jamil El Kebir (APK)
Tail Female: Ghazieh (AP)

Ancestral Elements
             Egypt I, 100.0%



			Jamil El Kebir (APK): 1870 cs

		Jamil El Ahmar (APK): 1885 bs

			Sabha El Zarka (APS): 1882 gm

	Dahman El Azrak (APK): 1890 gs

		Farida Dabbani (APS): 1880 gm

Negma (KDV): 1909 gm

		Saklawi I (APS): 1880 gs

	Bint Yamama (KDV): 1895 gm{1}

			Zobeyni (AP): 1840 gs

		Yemameh (APS): 1872 gm

			Ghazieh (AP): 1850 gm



AK Descendants (3 Generations): 1920 gm Mahroussa (MNL) (Mabrouk Manial (MNL) x Negma (KDV)) 1928 gs *Zarife (Ibn Samhan (RAS) x Mahroussa (MNL)) 1936 cm Atar-Gul (*Zarife x Gulnare) 1936 km Black Auster (*Zarife x *Aziza) 1937 bs Hallany Mistanny [35] (*Zarife x *Roda) 1937 bs Maariqui (*Zarife x *Aire) 1940 _m Arifa (*Zarife x Arjemonde) 1940 _s Zuhayl (*Zarife x Lulu) 1941 gm Allifah [ 2] (*Zarife x Sahalli) 1941 gm Ferza [ 3] (*Zarife x Ferka) 1941 gs Ghafil (*Zarife x Croisedore) 1942 bm Ferzarie [ 6] (*Zarife x Ferka) 1943 gm Dorzah [ 5] (*Zarife x Croisedore) 1943 bm Sarifah [ 3] (*Zarife x Sawa) 1944 bm Tagderiefa (*Zarife x Tagdertagri) 1945 gs Sahran (*Zarife x Sahalli) 1945 _s Salif (*Zarife x Sikirah) 1945 bs Tahzyr (*Zarife x Trefna) 1946 gs Azym [ 2] (*Zarife x Sahalli) 1946 _m Sizi (*Zarife x Sikirah) 1947 gs Rakiz (*Zarife x Croisedore) 1947 _s Zafir (*Zarife x Sirra) 1948 gm Ferizah (*Zarife x Ferza) 1948 gm Julifa (*Zarife x Julah) 1948 gm Razifa (*Zarife x Zaryf) 1948 gm Rinetta (*Zarife x Zeneta) 1948 cm Safirah [ 4] (*Zarife x Sirra) 1949 gs Fulaz (*Zarife x Ferza) 1949 gs Zaharif (*Zarife x Allifah) 1929 gm *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida (*Nasr x Mahroussa (MNL)) 1938 bs Warys (*Nasr x *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida) 1939 bs Wahraz (Gulastra x *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida) 1940 gm El Kahira (Gulastra x *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida) 1946 gm Haraka [ 7] (Kenur x *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida) 1947 gm Bint Hamida [ 3] (Kenur x *H.H. Mohamed Ali's Hamida) 1930 gs *Fadl (Ibn Rabdan (RAS) x Mahroussa (MNL)) 1934 bs Farrab (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Durra) 1934 gs Fay-El-Dine [40] (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1935 bs Faddan [23] (*Fadl x *Bint Saada) 1935 gm FaDurra [ 1] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Durra) 1936 bm Fadahma [ 2] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1936 gm Farrida (*Fadl x *Bint Saada) 1936 bm Fazala [ 4] (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1937 gm Fa Deene [11] (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1937 gm Fa Saana [ 5] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1937 gs Fa-Rabdan [ 2] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Durra) 1939 cs Fa-Azark (*Fadl x *Bint Saada) 1939 gm Fa-Ghagaha [ 2] (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1939 cs Fa-Ribal (*Fadl x Baribeh) 1939 gs Zeydan [ 1] (*Fadl x Hegra) 1940 bm Fa Sharon (*Fadl x Baribeh) 1940 cm Fa Shebas (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1941 bs Fa Nafia (*Fadl x Baribeh) 1942 cs Khebir [15] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1943 cm Serrafa (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1943 cm Turfada [ 3] (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1944 bm Bint Turfa (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1944 gm Selma (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1945 gs Fa-Hagah [ 2] (*Fadl x Fa-Ghagaha) 1945 gm Habba [12] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1946 bm Fa-Zabba (*Fadl x Zabba) 1946 gs Fad Sabbah (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1946 bm Gammousa [ 4] (*Fadl x Fay-Sabbah) 1946 gs Ibn Fadl [64] (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1947 gs Barzab (*Fadl x Zabba) 1947 bm Fa-Habba [ 6] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1947 ks Fa-Serr [60] (*Fadl x *Bint Serra I) 1948 gs Fadbaar (*Fadl x Fadba) 1948 ks Fasaab [ 4] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1948 bm Turfara [ 6] (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1948 gs Zabaar (*Fadl x Zabba) 1949 bm Fa Aana [ 3] (*Fadl x Aana) 1949 cm Faaba [ 6] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1949 gm Zenzela [ 4] (*Fadl x Zabba) 1950 bs Fabah [52] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1951 bm Fa-Abba [10] (*Fadl x *Bint Bint Sabbah) 1951 bs Fa-Haab (*Fadl x Fay-Sabbah) 1951 gs Fa-Rab [ 5] (*Fadl x Aana) 1952 gs Fa-Turf [33] (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1953 gm Afirah (*Fadl x Aana) 1953 cm Sabl [ 6] (*Fadl x Fay-Sabbah) 1954 gm Saana (*Fadl x Aana) 1954 gs Tarff [ 9] (*Fadl x *Turfa) 1955 gs Fa-Daarl [ 1] (*Fadl x Imaar) 1955 gm Faera (*Fadl x Temag) 1955 rs Lothar [25] (*Fadl x Habba) 1931 gm *Maaroufa (Ibn Rabdan (RAS) x Mahroussa (MNL)) 1936 gs Alhaamed (Alcazar x *Maaroufa) 1937 gm Fa El Maar [ 1] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1938 gm Fay-Negma [ 7] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1939 gm Fay Roufa [ 9] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1941 gs Baarouf [23] (*Aldebar x *Maaroufa) 1942 gs Azrak (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1944 gm Kamama [ 2] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1945 cs Fay-Aarouf (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1946 gs Afmaar [ 2] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1947 gm Maardina [ 3] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1948 gm Maarou [ 7] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1949 gm El Maar [ 3] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1950 gm Fay Ufa [ 1] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1952 gm Aaroufa [11] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1953 cm Bint Maaroufa [ 1] (Fay-El-Dine x *Maaroufa) 1954 gs Faaris [15] (Fa-Serr x *Maaroufa) 1957 gm Serroufa [ 1] (Fa-Serr x *Maaroufa) 1922 gm Zahra (MNL) (Gamil Manial (MNL) x Negma (KDV)) 1934 _m El Zahraa (INS) (Rasheed (BLT) x Zahra (MNL)) 1941 gm Ghazala I (INS) [ 3] (El Moez (INS) x El Zahraa (INS)) 1937 gs Adham (INS) (Ibn Fayda (KAD) x Zahra (MNL)) 1945 gm Ragha (INS) [ 1] (Adham (INS) x Ragaa (INS)) 1948 bs Abboud (INS) [ 2] (Adham (INS) x Obeya (INS)) 1951 gm Zabia (INS) [ 4] (Adham (INS) x Ghazala I (INS)) 1925 gs Jasir (MNL) (Mabrouk Manial (MNL) x Negma (KDV)) 1933 gm Jatta (W-M) (Jasir (MNL) x Soldateska (WL)) 1957 gm Sahmet (W-M) [ 2] (Hadban Enzahi (RAS) x Jatta (W-M)) 1926 gm *Aziza (Gamil Manial (MNL) x Negma (KDV)) 1932 gs *Silver Yew (Rabdan El Azrak (APK) x *Aziza) 1936 km Black Auster (*Zarife x *Aziza) 1937 gs Abyad (*Nasr x *Aziza) 1938 gs Asad (*Nasr x *Aziza) 1939 gs Julep (Gulastra x *Aziza) 1944 gm Julah [ 1] (Julep x Zaryf) 1958 gs Julyan [26] (Julep x Bint Maaroufa) 1944 gs Azual (Kenur x *Aziza) 1945 cs Abjar (Kenur x *Aziza) 1947 gm Azyya (Kenur x *Aziza) 1961 gm Faziza (Fa-Turf x Azyya) 1962 ks Starziz [ 1] (Fa-Turf x Azyya) 1963 gm Sharzyya [ 7] (Fa-Turf x Azyya) 1931 gm *Roda (Mansour (RAS) x Negma (KDV)) 1937 bs Hallany Mistanny (*Zarife x *Roda) 1956 bm Sweet Hallany [ 1] (Hallany Mistanny x Nisana) 1957 km Alliette [ 3] (Hallany Mistanny x *Lebnaniah) 1957 _m Baballany [ 1] (Hallany Mistanny x Baba) 1957 bs Mistlany [ 4] (Hallany Mistanny x Schiba) 1957 gm San Luis Bint Dorzah [ 2] (Hallany Mistanny x Dorzah) 1957 km San Luis Rodorzah [ 7] (Hallany Mistanny x Kadorzah) 1958 bs Fa Mist (Hallany Mistanny x Fa Aana) 1958 bm HMR Ballanni [ 3] (Hallany Mistanny x Baba) 1958 bm Layllany [ 4] (Hallany Mistanny x *Layya) 1958 bs Mista-Bin [ 7] (Hallany Mistanny x Bint Hamida) 1958 bs Mista-Har [ 4] (Hallany Mistanny x Haraka) 1958 bm Mistanna (Hallany Mistanny x Nisana) 1958 bm Nallany (Hallany Mistanny x Nada) 1958 bm Natanny (Hallany Mistanny x Nada) 1958 _s Pantagruel (Hallany Mistanny x Fay) 1958 _m San Luis Rose of Roda [ 3] (Hallany Mistanny x Kadorzah) 1959 _m Faylani (Hallany Mistanny x Fay) 1959 bs Galeel (Hallany Mistanny x Baba) 1959 bm Hamara [ 8] (Hallany Mistanny x Haraka) 1959 gs HMR Hallany Mistanny (Hallany Mistanny x Shangri-La) 1959 bm Mist Aana [ 8] (Hallany Mistanny x Fa Aana) 1959 km Romida (Hallany Mistanny x Bint Hamida) 1959 km San Luis Dorzah Al Jellabi [ 4]OnHq{Od(Hallany Mistanny x Dorzah) 1959 bm San Luis Rose Of Zarife [ 2] (Hallany Mistanny x Kadorzah) 1960 gs Koli Bey (Hallany Mistanny x Shangri-La) 1960 bs Lateef (Hallany Mistanny x Baba) 1960 gm Rose Of Mistanny [ 4] (Hallany Mistanny x *Layya) 1960 _s San Luis Feysul Ibn Dorzah (Hallany Mistanny x Dorzah) 1961 _m HMR Bint Rodorzah (Hallany Mistanny x San Luis Rodorzah) 1961 bm R-Halana [ 2] (Hallany Mistanny x Haraka) 1962 bm Allanyba (Hallany Mistanny x Baballany) 1962 bm Bint Ballanni [ 6] (Hallany Mistanny x HMR Ballanni) 1962 gs HMR Haltak [ 3] (Hallany Mistanny x Takris) 1962 gm Rallany [ 2] (Hallany Mistanny x Haraka) 1964 bm HMR Misdorzah (Hallany Mistanny x San Luis Rodorzah) 1938 gs Rodasr (*Nasr x *Roda) 1942 gm Shangri-La [ 5] (Rodasr x Sabigat) 1939 gs Apollo (Agwe x *Roda) 1955 _s Baraba (Apollo x Kae) 1955 _s Trazar (Apollo x Zabba) 1956 _m Trakima [ 1] (Apollo x Kae) 1956 _s Trazak (Apollo x Zabba) 1957 _s Trazabek [ 1] (Apollo x Zabba) 1958 _m Trazabba (Apollo x Zabba) 1960 gm Trabba [ 1] (Apollo x Zabba) 1961 _s Trazabar (Apollo x Zabba) 1963 gm Tranegma (Apollo x Zabba) 1940 gm Rodetta (Agwe x *Roda) 1941 gm Shemma (Agwe x *Roda) 1943 gm Weda (Agwe x *Roda) 1945 gs Jaspre (Agwe x *Roda) 1956 gm Raaja (Jaspre x Raada) 1965 cm Fada El Ajzaa [10] (Jaspre x Nad-Kin) 1966 gm Rasprekhen [ 1] (Jaspre x Khenada) 1966 _s Rasprenad (Jaspre x Nad-Kin) 1967 gm Gazelle El Ajzaa [ 2] (Jaspre x Jeannine) 1969 gm Princeton Jaroufa [ 9] (Jaspre x Black Satin) 1954 cm Sunny Acres Katydid (Ibn Hanad x *Roda) 1955 bm Sunny Acres Fantasy (Ibn Hanad x *Roda) 1964 cm SA Margaret [ 2] (Sunny Acres Darius x Sunny Acres Fantasy) 1966 cm SA Moriah [ 4] (Sunny Acres Darius x Sunny Acres Fantasy) 1967 cm Sunny Acres Rose [ 5] (Sunny Acres Darius x Sunny Acres Fantasy)

Total descendants 27536
Descendants by generation
 1,   5
 2,  24
 3, 126
 4, 410
 5, 777
 6,1666
 7,3270
 8,5849
 9,6245
10,4724
11,2678
12,1217
13, 452
14,  84
15,   7
16,   2
Descendants by year
 1920-9,   6 
 1930-9,  38 
 1940-9, 148 
 1950-9, 256 
 1960-9, 572 
 1970-9,1814 
 1980-9,5691 
 1990-9,8018 
 2000-9,7363 
 2010-9,3630 

Footnotes
1: See Bint Yamama (KDV): mtDNA Inheritance
Randal T Abler Tue, Aug 13, 2019 8:09:55 AM f