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BINT YAMAMA (KDV)

1895 GM EGYPT*57 Breeder: KHEDIVE ABBAS II
Tail Male: SAKLAWI I (APS) Tail Female: GHAZIEH (AP)

BINT YAMAMA (KDV)

Total Descendants

1895 GM EGYPT*57

Breeder: KHEDIVE ABBAS II

A Pre-Registration Horse

NOTES: The information about this mare has evolved over time. (1) References made while she was living by Wilfrid and Lady Anne Blunt show her as out of the dam of Mesaoud. (2) In 1924, a stallion in this line, Kafifan, was sold to Poland as a Saqlawi. (3) In 1930, another stallion of this line, Jasir, was sold to Germany as a Jallabi. (4) The 1932 certified pedigrees for the Babson and Brown imports from Manial Stud of Prince Mohamed Aly show Bint Yamama as by "Saklawi El Kebir" out of Yamama, of the Jallabi strain of Ali Pasha Sharif, from "Waziria, from Abbas Pasha's stud." (5) General Dickinson of Travelers Rest Stud purchased the Brown imports in this line from W.R. Brown, and noted the discrepancy between the Kafifan documentation and the 1932 certified pedigrees. He contacted Prince Mohamed Aly, who answered that the Jallabiyat are related to the Saqlawiyat, but did not apparently produce any further clarification. (6) The RAS History [1948, 126] shows Bint Yamama (KDV) as a great-granddaughter of the Jellabiet Feysul (AP). (7) The Inshass Original Herd Book erroneously shows a 20th-century Inshass pedigree for Yamama. (8) Raswan Index entry #1497 describes Bint Yamama as a grey mare by Saklawi I out of Yemama (APS), an 1885 bay mare owned by the Blunts at Sheykh Obeyd. The chronology for Yemama (APS) makes it difficult to see how she could have been the dam of Bint Yamama (KDV). A further point of confusion is that entry #11068 uses "Yamama" as another name for Ghazieh (AP).

Publication of Lady Anne Blunt's Journals and Correspondence in 1986 brought the journal entries to public notice, and some authors began to refer to the line as descending from Ghazieh (AP) through the dam of Mesaoud, Yemameh (APS). Clarification came in 2000, when Dr. Ann Bowling [Bowling, et al., 2000] performed a research study using new technology to identify genetic markers in mtDNA. [See a discussion of this research, pp115-8.] The line descending in tail-female through Bint Yamama (KDV) matched the genetic markers of the line descending in tail-female through Bint Helwa (APS), a mare of the Ghazieh (AP) family. The Bint Yamama (KDV) line did not match the genetic markers of the line descending from Jellabiet Feysul in tail female through Makbula (APS). This research has been confirmed by a separate genetic study performed for the Pyramid Society [J. Forbis, private communication].

While there is no explanation for how the line came to be described as Jallabiyat, it seems clear that Lady Anne's journal entries, done at the time, are correct, and that Bint Yamama (KDV) is out of Yemameh (APS), the dam of Mesaoud. These entries are noted here: [12.17.1907] Lady Anne visits Manial Stud and views the mares. She does not mention either a Bint Yamama or a Jallabiyah. Lady Anne visits Manial Stud [12.22.1908, 1.25.1911 and 2.6.1912] and in all three entries remarks that the best mares include the Saqlawi Yamama obtained from the Khedive, daughter of Mesaoud's mother. These entries correspond with a time when Bint Yamama was at Manial Stud. Jallabiyahs at Manial Stud are not mentioned in the published journals.

An early herd book of Prince Mohamed Aly has an entry for Bint Yamama as a "white mare from the stud of Koubbah [of Khedive Abbas II], sire Saklawi, son of Saklawi Jedran of Ali Pasha Cherif, from the stud of Khedive Abbas I. Dam the famous Yamama of Ali Cherif. Daughter of the chestnut mare Wazirie of Abbas I." [See the entry for Yemameh (APS).]

Tail Male: SAKLAWI I (APS)

Tail Female: GHAZIEH (AP)

Ancestral Elements:

  • Egypt I: 100%
BINT YAMAMA (KDV)
1895 GM
SAKLAWI I (APS)
1880 GS
YEMAMEH (APS)
1872 GM
ZOBEYNI (AP)
1840 GS
GHAZIEH (AP)
1850 GM


BINT YAMAMA (KDV)

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Total descendants:


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31027

Descendants by generation

Descendants by year

1 : 3
2 : 31
3 : 68
4 : 432
5 : 1381
6 : 3257
7 : 5832
8 : 6501
9 : 5857
10 : 4193
11 : 2565
12 : 754
13 : 142
14 : 10
15 : 1
1900 - 1909 : 1
1910 - 1919 : 2
1920 - 1929 : 10
1930 - 1939 : 58
1940 - 1949 : 160
1950 - 1959 : 270
1960 - 1969 : 613
1970 - 1979 : 1990
1980 - 1989 : 6171
1990 - 1999 : 8580
2000 - 2009 : 7843
2010 - 2019 : 4361
2020 - 2029 : 968

Footnotes

See Bint Yamama (KDV): mtDNA Inheritance

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